On Aug 12, 5:07=EF=BF=BDpm, Raymond <Bluerhy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Aug 11, 3:57 pm, s****hawk <s****h...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Aug 11, 6:09 am, jane.pla...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Aug 9, 9:03 pm,s****hawk<s****h...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 9, 5:36 pm, orio...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:09:12 -0700, "Cor****ate Slave For Life"
>
> > > > > <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > >
>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080809/ap_on_el_pr/democratic_platf=
orm
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> > > > > >Imagine not needing to worry about losing your home, life
saving=
s,
> > > > > >everything you've worked your whole life for, just because of
an=
unfortunate
> > > > > >illness or injury completely beyond your control. I cannot wait
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to vote
> > > > > >Democratic this November!
>
> > > > > You wouldn't have to worry about it because you wouldn't have a
j=
ob.
> > > > > "Universal Health Care" is paid for by taxes and companies react
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to
> > > > > taxes by laying people off and moving their plants out of the
cou=
ntry.
>
> > > > Apparently you haven't being paying attention. One of the reasons
> > > > many U.S. companies are moving out of the country is because
worker=
's
> > > > benefits, especially medical care, have become too costly. So the
> > > > companies are moving to countries that provide government pensions
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and
> > > > health care for the workers and allow the companies to keep more
of
> > > > the profits. If the U.S. wants to stem the flow of outsourcing,
> > > > offshoring, and U.S. abandonment, the way to go is with government
> > > > provided universal health care.
>
> > > > Incidentally, universal health care would also head off the
medicar=
e
> > > > disaster looming over the horizon. In just a few years from now,
> > > > medicare will be soaking up 20 percent of U.S. revenues from all
> > > > sources--and that's just to take care of old unemployed people.
Fac=
e
> > > > it: the U.S. health care system is broken and needs immediate
repai=
r.
> > > > Vote Obama.
>
> > > One thing you said has me confused.
>
> > > Medicare is a disaster, so you want to fix it by providing a
"Medicar=
e
> > > disaster" for everyone?
>
> > > Jane.- Hide quoted text -
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> > The problem is that medicare patients today must buy their health care
> > from the unregulated "free enterprise," profit-motive health
> > industry. The free enterprise concept doesn't work in general health
> > care because once the patient is under treatment, the health care
> > providers have no effective competition--sick patients don't threaten
> > to seek another doctor who charges less or treats more economically.
> > The patients always want the most and the best, and to the doctors,
> > that means the most expensive and the most profitable treatment
> > available. Private doctors are in the business to make money, and
> > sick people are an easy mark.
>
> > Moreover, Medicare is like a private insurance company that only
> > insures elderly sick people. Any insurance company that would insure
> > only people who are almost certain to make claims would soon go broke,
> > just like medicare is doing now. The only way the system would work
> > would be to spread the risk among the general population. The
> > hundreds of billions flowing into the coffers of the private insurance
> > companies and private health care organizations could be diverted to
> > the general fund for government furnished health care. Only the
> > federal government can effectively spread the risk nationwide.
>
> > Of course, that would mean that the profit motive must be removed from
> > the health care system. A health care system based on the profit
> > motive would be like having judges paid according to how much they
> > award plaintiffs in the cases before their courts. Government
> > furnished health care system must establish standardized prices and
> > cost containment.
>
> > A government-furnished health care system does not mean the end of
> > private health care; it only means quality care available for every
> > citizen regardless of wealth or station. Let the very wealthy have
> > their private, high-paid, physicians who can charge whatever they
> > like, but the government should make certain that every citizen has
> > quality health care available without fear of going bankrupt because
> > of some unexpected family illness. National health is a governmental
> > concern.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Even with universal health care, no one is safe
> from the =EF=BF=BDincompetent medicine men. More and more Americans are
> waking up to the reality of our medical community and its corruption
> and dangers.
>
> "Good advice is always certain to be ignored, but that's no reason
> not
> to give it."
> --- Agatha Christie:
>
> "I am convinced that of all quackeries, the physician's is the
> grotesquest & the silliest. And they know they are shams & humbugs.
> They have taken the place of those augurs who couldn't look each
> other
> in the face without laughing."
> --- Mark Twain
>
> "The person most likely to kill you is not a relative or a friend, or
> a mugger or a burglar or a drunken driver. The person most likely to
> kill you is your doctor"
> ---.(Vernon Coleman) author, =EF=BF=BDWhat Doctors Don't Tell You
>
> " I often say a great doctor kills more people than a great general.
> "
> - Gottfried Leibnitz
>
> SEE Gangsters in Medicine.
> GANGSTERS IN MEDICINE
>
> By Thomas Smith
>
> NewsWithViews.com
>
> Disease in America.
> Some of the economics of Medicine.
> Exceptions to the rule.
> Takeover of the American medical Association.
> Treatment instead of cure.
> Insurance fraud.
> Government coercion in medical practice.
> What to do.
>
> The Journal of the American Medical Association recently re****ted
> that
> as many as 106,000 deaths occur annually in US hospitals due to
> adverse reactions to prescription drugs that are properly prescribed
> by physicians that use them as directed by the drug companies.
>
> Even worse, the National Council for Patient Information and
> Education
> re****ted that an additional 125,000 deaths occur annually due to
> adverse reactions to drugs that the physician never should have
> prescribed. In these deaths the doctor did not follow the
> instructions
> on proper administration of the drugs. For example, Glucophage, a
> diabetic oral hypoglycemic, should never be prescribed for patients
> with Kidney disease or Congestive Heart Failure because it can cause
> fatal Lactic Acidosis in these patients. A warning label is
> prominently placed on the medication container to warn of this
> potential misuse.
>
> However, JAMA re****ted that almost 1/4 of the patients who had been
> prescribed Glucophage had Kidney damage or Congestive Heart failure
> or
> both.
>
> The annual death toll from synthetic prescription drugs, both from
> the
> correctly prescribed and the incorrectly prescribed, amounts to about
> 231,000 deaths every year. To put this into perspective, this is the
> equivalent of a world trade center disaster every week for over a
> year
> and a half or the crash of two fully loaded 747 aircraft every day of
> the year.
>
> No information was re****ted on the number of outpatient and doctor's
> office deaths caused by these very same drugs when prescribed by
> these
> very same doctors. The re****ted figures alone, however, make drug
> deaths caused by physicians the third leading cause of death in the
> US. It is far ahead of accidents, drunk driving, homicides, airline
> accidents, as well as all other disease with the sole exceptions of
> cancer and heart disease.
>
> Many of these drugs responsible for the death statistics cited are
> diabetic drugs. None of these drugs cure or even were intended to
> cure
> diabetes. During the time a patient is on the drugs his body is
> suffering great damage due to the uncontrolled progress of the
> disease. This is in addition to the risk and damage caused by the
> drug
> itself.
>
> According to Dr. Mendelsohn, author of "Confessions of a Medical
> Heretic", 2.4 million unnecessary operations are performed every year
> and they cost over 12,000 lives. When the records of six New York
> hospitals were examined it was found that 43% of the Hysterectomies
> that were performed were medically unnecessary.
>
> No one should ever submit to any surgical procedure without first
> obtaining several unrelated medical opinions, at least not here in
> the
> United States. Women are particularly vulnerable to this type of
> victimization.
>
> Disease in America.
>
> According to the World Health Re****t 2000 the United States ranks
> twelfth, that is second from the bottom, in their thirteen country
> survey of sixteen available health indicators. We are dead last for
> low birth weight and neonatal and infant mortality. We rank between
> ninth and twelfth for all life expectancy categories between one year
> and 40 years. Another study ranked the United States as fifteenth in
> the twenty-five industrialized countries studied.
>
> Diabetes, Hypoglycemia, Hyperinsulinemia are so widespread in the
> United States that it is estimated that over half the population
> exhibits one or more symptoms of these life destroying diseases.
> Symptoms of Adult onset diabetes are now being routinely noted in six
> year old children. Obesity and it's related Endocrine dysfunction are
> commonly observed in teenagers. Heart Failure, a symptom of advanced
> Type II Diabetes, remains in the top three killer diseases in the
> Westernized countries.
>
> Although the cause and cure for Type II Diabetes and related
> endocrine
> failure has been increasingly well understood in the scientific
> community for the last forty years, this disease is not being cured
> by
> todays orthodox treatment regimens. In order to find a cure it is
> necessary to seek alternative medical approaches to this disease.
>
> Some of the economics of Medicine.
>
> A large part of this medical disaster that the United States
> currently
> experiences is due to the way our medical community is organized.
> Basically it is not organized to heal and to cure disease; the
> medical
> community, particularly at its upper levels, is a commercial venture
> organized to make money for its practitioners.
>
> Although the record of the United States Medical community in the
> cure
> of disease is deplorable, the same cannot be said for its ability to
> produce income and profit. For example, for the top fifteen
> pharmaceutical companies, including such names as Abbot, Wyeth,
> Hoffman-La Roche, Merck and others, the second quarter revenue for
> 2002 was re****ted as $63,520.6 million and the corresponding re****ted
> income was 11,731.8 million respectively. This is second only to the
> defense industry in the United States.
>
> In 1997, the latest year for which we have the figures, the earnings
> of physicians were re****ted by Broad as averaging around $200,000 per
> year. The lowest re****ting specialty, Rheumatology re****ted $158,500
> and the highest, cardiovascular surgeon, re****ted $363,300. When
> examining the numbers, we noted that the high salaries seemed to be
> concentrated in members of the AMA. Those belonging to less powerful
> trade unions did not fare nearly so well even though they did most of
> the actual patient care work. For example, the median staff salary of
> registered nurses was $35,256
>
> The Cardiac surgeon, for example, does nothing whatsoever to cure
> cardiac disease. Three to five percent of the heart surgery patients
> die on the operating table. Cardiac surgery provides no better three
> year survival rate than no treatment at all. A Harvard survival study
> of 200,000 patients revealed that the long term survival rate of
> patients subjected to surgery was no better than the survival rate of
> those that had no surgery.
>
> Of course, your cardiac surgeon will not tell you this when you need
> to make a decision on whether or not to elect cardiac surgery.
>
> Never in history have so many ac***ulated so much wealth for
> providing
> their customers or clients or patients with so little real benefit.
>
> Exceptions to the rule.
>
> Many doctors of integrity are as much victims of the system as are
> their patients. Today's doctor is not free to treat disease as his
> conscience dictates. He is forced to administer approved protocols
> whether they are known to work or not. To deviate from these approved
> protocols invites law suits, peer criticism and censure from State
> medical licensing boards.
>
> This writer knows of two local doctors who tried to buck the
> establishment and really help their patients. Both lost their license
> to practice medicine. One is currently working as an administrator in
> a California hospital and the other has started a nutritional clinic.
>
> Takeover of the American medical Association.
>
> This sad state of affairs is directly traceable to the takeover of
> the
> American Medical Association by the Carnegie and Rockefeller
> foundations in the early part of the twentieth century.
>
> At the turn of the century the medical community was in a sad state
> of
> disrepair. There were no qualifications to become a doctor. If one
> wanted to be a doctor it was only necessary to hang out a ****ngle and
> start the practice of medicine. Medical schools were poorly financed,
> often taught contradictory medical philosophies and had little impact
> on the practice of medicine. In 1910 the American Medical
> Association,
> todays AMA, was on the verge of bankruptcy. Few doctors belonged to
> it
> and even fewer paid any attention to it. Quackery of all kinds was
> rampant. The market was flooded with fake cancer cures and 80 proof
> liver tonic.
>
> It was in this environment that Rockefeller and Carnegie moved in and
> bought the AMA and then used it to take control of the entire United
> States medical establishment. In 1910, Henry Prichard president of
> the
> Carnegie foundation, bought control of the AMA for the sum of
> $10,000.
> He then financed the publication of the Flexner re****t, as it was
> then
> called, to gain popular sup****t for the changes that were to be made
> in the medical community. With public backing secured by the
> publication of the Flexner re****t, Carnegie and Rockefeller commenced
> a major upgrade in medical education by financing only those medical
> schools that taught what they wanted taught. Predictably, those
> schools that had the financing churned out the better doctors.
>
> In return for the financing, the schools were required to teach
> course
> material that was exclusively drug oriented. That is why today our
> doctors are so heavily biased toward synthetic drug therapy and know
> little or nothing about nutrition.
>
> Dr. David Edsall, former dean of Harvard medical school, said "I was,
> for a period, a professor of Therapeutics and Pharmacology, [at
> Harvard] and I knew from experience that students were obliged then
> by
> me and by others to learn about an interminable number of drugs, many
> of which were valueless, many of them useless, some probably even
> harmful...."
>
> For a time, these changes actually improved the practice of medicine
> in the United States. Then, as the distorted medical curriculum began
> to churn out doctors whose only concern was prescribing synthetic
> drugs, things began to deteriorate into what we see today.
>
> Today the average medical doctor receives 3 hours or less training on
> nutrition despite the fact that our bodies are constructed entirely
> of
> what we eat and drink. Today's doctor receives much of his ongoing
> education from detail men. The detail man is the drug company
> salesman
> whose job it is to teach the doctor how to use the latest drugs.
>
> Treatment instead of cure.
>
> Even with all of this history the medical doctor retained a great
> deal
> of his autonomy through the 1930's and into the late 1940's. In 1949
> another major change took place in the medical community that set the
> stage for the disaster we see today. It was in 1949 that the medical
> community reorganized itself into the competing medical specialty
> groups we see today. Prior to 1949 a doctor was a doctor; he dealt
> with all disease and injury. After 1949 this was not so.
>
> The reorganization established many of the specialties that we know
> today. It was then that the Cardiac Specialist, the Endocrinologist,
> the Hepatic and Biliary Specialist and many other professional
> specialty groups were formed. The symptoms of the then raging
> epidemic
> of Type II Diabetes were divided among the specialty groups so that
> each group had their own set of proprietary symptoms.
>
> The story given out for the reorganization was that it would help to
> focus more attention on the then current Diabetes epidemic. However,
> in practice it caused the entire medical community to treat their own
> proprietary symptom set and nobody focused on curing the disease
> anymore. This was the origin of the "treat the symptom" and "ignore
> the cause" philosophy that now dominates the entire medical
> community.
>
> This was the turning point event that led to the removal of the word
> "cure" from the medical vocabulary. Today, if you mention the "c"
> word
> around your doctor he will usually glaze over and pretend not to hear
> you. He only responds to the word "treatment".
>
> Under the Rockefeller and Carnegie influence their pharmaceutical
> firms started to pour out the vast array of synthetic drugs that the
> doctors trained to their medical school standards now prescribed
> almost to the exclusion of any other remedies. Among the first drugs
> to be marketed this way were the oral hypoglycemic agents. They were
> deliberately designed to treat the symptom while not curing the
> disease.
>
> Insurance fraud.
>
> Since the name of the medical game was money, a means had to be
> devised to provide the patient with money that could only be used to
> pay for approved medical treatment. Enter the insurance company
> concept. Today employees have, as an im****tant part of their
> remuneration for their work, a health insurance policy. This health
> insurance policy does not pay for all health related needs; it only
> pays for those health related services that are approved. These, of
> course, are the synthetic drug therapies that are known to work
> poorly, if at all.
>
> In order to secure effective medical treatment from the alternative
> sector of the economy the patient must pay for it himself; insurance
> companies specifically exclude virtually all alternative treatment.
> One wonders why so many continue to pay for an insurance program that
> cannot, even in principle, be of any real benefit to them.
>
> Government coercion in medical practice.
>
> In the ordinary course of events, good medicine would eventually
> drive
> out bad medicine. As more and more people discover ways to maintain
> and improve their health, without drug therapy, they will simply
> abandon bad medicine and resort to alternative therapies.
>
> Indeed, this is happening. Also happening is a concerted government
> effort to discredit and declare unlawful those effective therapies
> that represent the greatest threat to orthodox medicine. In the last
> fifty years many effective cures have been developed for many of the
> major killer diseases that we have. In each instance the developer
> has
> been branded a quack, his business has been ruined and in some cases
> he has been sent to jail.
>
> Even with outright governmental attacks on those that would promote
> effective therapies in America, the tide is turning. More and more
> Americans are waking up to the reality of our medical community. More
> and more they are finding it to be a fraud and they are turning to
> less conventional treatments and modalities.
>
> Informed Americans that require effective medical treatment for
> anything more serious than a head cold are turning away from orthodox
> drug quackery in droves. The medical community is trying hard to make
> it illegal to refuse their treatment. A major effort is currently
> underway (Codex) to severely restrict the availability of nutritional
> supplements to those that use them throughout the world. Our
> government is seriously considering mandatory vaccination programs.
>
> Many believe that our Food and Drug Administration, FDA, represents
> the American people and that the FDA acts to insure that our food and
> drugs are safe and effective. Nothing could be further from the
> truth.
> The FDA acts entirely to restrain and manage competition between and
> among those that manufacture our food and drugs. They do this only
> for
> the purpose of minimizing competition in business. Rockefeller is
> famous for proclaiming the only sin is competition.
>
> Willy Ley, a former head of the FDA, said it best when he said "What
> the Food and Drug Administration does and what the public thinks that
> it does are as different as night and day".
>
> Today in America the practice of medicine is not free. It is one of
> the most tightly controlled commercial enterprises in the world. That
> is why it produces such extraordinary income for it's favored and
> such
> misery, disease and death for its victims.
>
> What to do.
>
> Given the growth of the medical monster that ate the United States,
> what can we who live here do to effectively manage our own health.
>
> Perhaps the single most im****tant thing that we all must do is to
> recognize that our health is our most im****tant possession. We have
> no
> choice but to accept total responsibility for our own health. To
> leave
> such an im****tant consideration to someone who clearly has much to
> gain by lying to us just does not make sense. Typically, we buy our
> cars and houses with a great deal more wisdom than we bring to the
> doctor's office when we go there.
>
> The modern orthodox medical community treats symptoms; they do not
> cure disease. When you visit the doctor, it is perfectly in order for
> you to ask bluntly whether or not the treatment he wants to give you
> will cure the disease you have.
>
> Some years ago, when I had a serious case of Type II Diabetes, I
> asked
> my doctor that question about the treatment he offered me. First he
> pretended he did not hear me. When I persisted and made eye contact
> and repeated the question he replied "this is the prescribed
> treatment". Such an evasive answer to such a direct question sent me
> to the library where I did the research to get a better answer. I
> quickly discovered that the drug he offered me would not only not
> cure
> the disease, but that it was guaranteed to put me on the road to
> becoming an invalid long before my time.
>
> Fortunately I rejected his treatment. I went on to search the
> scientific literature where I quickly found what I needed. It had
> nothing to do with synthetic drugs. It took me about 3 1/2 months to
> fully reverse my diabetes. That was seven years ago. The disease
> remains in full remission to this day.
>
> There is one im****tant caveat that must be mentioned at this point.
> If
> you are currently under a doctors care and are dissatisfied with the
> results you are getting, do not just stop taking the prescribed
> medication. Get your doctor, or another doctor if yours will not
> cooperate, to help wean you off prescription drugs and to help you to
> devise a workable alternative therapy. Many of these synthetic drugs
> will produce serious side effects if they are abruptly discontinued.
> When I had the problem I had not yet taken prescription medication.
>
> After accepting full responsibility for your own health, the second
> most im****tant consideration is to do your homework and learn about
> the disease or disability that you have. Buy books, attend seminars,
> subscribe to newsletters, search the internet, learn about what it
> takes to actually reverse the disease that afflicts you. Investigate
> alternative medical practitioners. Many Naturopaths and Chiropractors
> can be of great help in actually curing disease. Do not fall for the
> idea that only doctors are smart enough to understand these things.
>
> Look for that unusual doctor that will risk really trying to help
> you;
> and, realize that he is taking a substantial risk when he does so. In
> other words, do the best you can to find something better for
> yourself
> than what your doctor offers. Help each other. If you discover
> something im****tant, don't be afraid to share the information. Be
> vocal when government organizations attempt to restrict or deny your
> access to natural nutritional supplements.
>
> If you are fortunate to find a doctor with this kind of integrity,
> understand the im****tance of what you have found and give him all of
> the sup****t that you can give. There is a medical doctor in
> California, we will call him Doctor Q, that refused to compromise his
> integrity in his practice of medicine. He ended up in jail, put there
> by his fellow doctors. His patients got together, got him out of jail
> and had a special bill passed in the State legislature to protect his
> practice of medicine. Today he still runs a flouri****ng practice
> where
> he ministers to patients from all over this country. He is actually
> curing disease not just treating it.
>
> Third, after accepting responsibility for your own health and
> becoming
> informed, recognize that medicine is a business. Your doctor is a
> paid
> consultant just like your electrician or plumber and he is listed in
> the same yellow pages. You have every right to get the information
> for
> which you are paying. When your doctor retreats into arrogance and
> refuses to provide direct answers to direct questions, consider
> getting another doctor. There really are many safe and effective
> therapies that go far beyond drugs. However, we must demand them on
> the firing line, in the doctor's office, when we need them.
>
> ? 2002 Thomas Smith - All Rights Reserved
>
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> -----
> Thomas Smith is a reluctant medical investigator having been forced
> into seeking a cure for his own Diabetes because it was obvious that
> his doctor would not or could not cure it. He has published the
> results of his successful Diabetes investigation in his special
> re****t
> entitled "Insulin: Our Silent Killer" written for the layman but also
> widely valued by the medical practitioner. This re****t may be
> purchased by sending $25.00 US to him at PO Box 7685 Loveland,
> Colorado 80537. He has also posted a great deal of useful information
> about this disease on his web pagewww.Healingmatters.comHe can be
> reached by telephone at: 1 (970) 669-9176 E-Mail:
> Val...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> The Disturbing Truth About Doctors and Your Medical
Safetyhttp://www.alte=
rnet.org/healthwellness/51949/
>
> Medical Malpractice Caps are Unwarranted by the Payout of Claims Data
>
> Each year, the debate in state legislatures around this country
> regarding the so called need for tort reform and caps on medical
> malpractice cases intensifies. Big medical cor****ations and insurance
> companies, who are only motivated about increasing premium revenue
> and
> decreasing payments to victims, lead the fight with big dollar
> lobbying campaigns. =EF=BF=BDUnfortunately, these lobbying efforts
rarely
> contain accurate facts and figures and in the end, leave innocent
> victims of malpractice with little or no recourse for even blatent
> acts of malpractice.
>
> http://medmalblog.thecochranfirmno.com/archives/cat-medical-malpracti...
>
> "Take two aspirin and call me in the morning. That will be $125.00.
> Pay the girl on the way out."
PAGE II
Doctors May Be Third Leading Cause of Death
by Joseph Mercola, D.O. Pharmaceutical Industry News
Joseph Mercola, D.O.
Dr. Mercola is a licensed Osteopathic physician and board-certified
in
family medicine. He served as the chairman of the family medicine
department at St. Alexius Medical Center for five years and has been
trained in both traditional and natural medicine. Dr. Mercola has
been
practicing natural medicine actively since 1990 and is the publisher
of www.mercola.com, the most visited health site on the internet.
View all articles by Joseph Mercola, D.O.... Doctors Are The Third
Leading Cause of Death in the US, Causing 250,000 Deaths Every Year
This week's issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association
(JAMA) is the best article I have ever seen written in the published
literature do***enting the tragedy of the traditional medical
paradigm.
This information is a followup of the Institute of Medicine re****t
which hit the papers in December of last year, but the data was hard
to reference as it was not in peer-reviewed journal. Now it is
published in JAMA which is the most widely circulated medical
periodical in the world.
http://www.chattanoogahealth.com/Articles/2135/1/Doctors_May_Be_Third...
Doctors are just the same as lawyers, the only difference is that
lawyers merely rob you, whereas doctors rob you and kill you, too.
- Anton Chekhov
http://www.health-care-reform.net/causedeath.htm
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